Interview with Damion Searls about Anniversaries [Part I]
Assuming that I’ll be reading聽础苍苍颈惫别谤蝉补谤颈别蝉听slowly but surely over the next four months, I thought it would be fun to talk to translator Damion Searls about the book along the way. If all goes according to plan, these monthly installments will develop into a rich conversation about the book, translation issues, and much more. To get things started though, I asked Damion a few general questions to lay the groundwork about this gigantic project.
Chad W. Post: How did you first come to Uwe Johnson糖心传媒檚 work?聽
Damion Searls: He wrote a book in homage to his friend, the great Austrian writer Ingeborg Bachmann, after she died tragically young in 1973糖心传媒擨 was and am a huge fan of hers so that was how I first discovered Johnson. Bachmann糖心传媒檚 Letters to Felician and Johnson糖心传媒檚 book about her, A Trip to Klagenfurt, would be the first two books I translated. But when I found out he had written a four-volume novel that takes place three blocks away from where I grew up in New York City, of course I had to read that.
CWP: This is a super mundane question, but given that I糖心传媒檓 planning on spending the better portion of four months reading this book, I糖心传媒檓 curious how long it took you to translate it all.
DS: I first read it糖心传媒攊t took me about a year糖心传媒攕ome 25 years ago, which is halfway between now and the events of the story. I translated a couple of chapter/days back in the 90s, but the main part of the work was in 2013糖心传媒�18, during which I also wrote a book and translated a lot of other things. I usually say it took me 2 years to translate over the course of about 5 years, but that糖心传媒檚 aside from the 20 years of lead time.
CWP: What糖心传媒檚 the full story behind the first version of 础苍苍颈惫别谤蝉补谤颈别蝉听in English? I know it was abridged, came out in a weird way with multiple translators, and has been out of print for quite some time. But why was it abridged? Were the cuts motivated by the publisher to try and reach a wider audience? Or by the author/translators?聽
DS: So in German the book was originally going to be a trilogy, which is why Parts 1 and 2 cover four months each. The first four months were published in 1970糖心传媒攆ast! really soon after 1967糖心传媒�68!糖心传媒攁nd then the second four months came out in 1971糖心传媒攁lso fast!糖心传媒攁nd the last four months was announced for 1972. But then Johnson got stuck, putting off Part 3 until 1973 and eventually publishing only half of the last third then, as the current Part 3. Life crises and creative crises and health problems meant that Part 4, the last two months of Gesine糖心传媒檚 year, wasn糖心传媒檛 finished until 1983.
There are internal signs of the book糖心传媒檚 tripartite structure still in there, for example every part begins with a swimming scene but Part 4, i.e. the second half of 糖心传媒淧art 3,糖心传媒� doesn糖心传媒檛.
Johnson was forced to drastically abridge the book for the English translation, and did, which is why it糖心传媒檚 sometimes said the abridgement was 糖心传媒渨ith his blessing糖心传媒�; it wasn糖心传媒檛 totally voluntary though. Leila Vennewitz translated the abridged first six months (abridged Part 1 + abridged first half of Part 2) and that came out in 1975; she went ahead with the next four months (half of abridged Part 2, all of abridged Part 3), then had to wait, and died before Johnson published Part 4 in 1983. They brought in Walter Arndt to translate the abridged Part 4, and that was included with the rest of Vennewitz糖心传媒檚 work as the second half of the two-volume Anniversaries in English, published in 1987. By that time, Vennewitz糖心传媒檚 first half was long since forgotten; I wonder if anyone made their way through the second half of the English.
Aside from the heavy cuts, which really change everything, Vennewitz糖心传媒檚 translation is also flawed in other ways, though it糖心传媒檚 not my place to go into that in detail. Arndt kind of phoned his part in, I have to say, though you can糖心传媒檛 blame him. When I proposed translating the rest of Anniversaries and splicing it into the existing translation, Edwin Frank, the editor of NYRB, read the earlier one and said no, it doesn糖心传媒檛 work, you need to do the whole thing.
CWP: Putting aside the issue of time, what are the other main challenges in translating a book of this magnitude? And how much did you rely on the earlier translation?
DS: I didn糖心传媒檛 rely on it, but I certainly referred to it; Vennewitz also had the advantage of translating while Johnson was alive, so there is some correspondence between them about tricky translation problems in the book. I was glad to have his answers to her questions. The book is very canonical in German, so there are books and books of secondary literature on it too; there糖心传媒檚 a giant line-by-line commentary, also available online, that gives all the references and everything like that.
That said, as I糖心传媒檝e , it糖心传媒檚 the slowest, hardest book I糖心传媒檝e ever translated, not because of the references or because the novel is a difficult readerly experience, if anything because it 颈蝉苍糖心传媒檛. It糖心传媒檚 quick and sharp and fluid, but that means you have to be really on the ball as a translator and find ways to keep the narrative moving, so it doesn糖心传媒檛 get sluggish and turgid. 聽(We can maybe talk about some examples once you get farther into the book?) One of the really helpful edits I got from Edwin Frank was encouraging me to use a lot more contractions (糖心传媒渃ouldn糖心传媒檛糖心传媒� or 糖心传媒渋t糖心传媒檚糖心传媒� or 糖心传媒渁ren糖心传媒檛糖心传媒�), which translations from German often underuse because there aren糖心传媒檛 contractions in German, so if you糖心传媒檙e not really thinking about it, a two-word translation (糖心传媒渃ould not,糖心传媒� 糖心传媒渋t is糖心传媒�) is the easy way to go. And yet contractions really keep things moving in normal English糖心传媒攖his paragraph has eight of them. Not using them is part of what can make translations from German feel heavy, or in a worst case sound robotic.
As for the length of the book, those difficulties were mostly logistical, about funding and carving out enough time to do it. NYRB could take on the project only once I糖心传媒檇 gotten quite a lot of funding from elsewhere: a Guggenheim, the Cullman Center, a multiyear grant from the Goethe Institut.
CWP: It糖心传媒檚 been a decade since I read any Uwe Johnson books, but in my memory, Speculations about Jakob聽补苍诲听Two Views聽are pretty . . . experimental, for lack of a better word. What struck me in starting聽础苍苍颈惫别谤蝉补谤颈别蝉听was that, from a simple reader糖心传媒檚 perspective, it糖心传媒檚 pretty easy to fall right into. I糖心传媒檓 not sure if it糖心传媒檚 because of the primary setting (NYC), the way the聽NY Times聽bits grounds the time period, or the mostly straightforward switches between Gesine糖心传媒檚 life in NYC and that of her parents, but, so far at least, this is far less 糖心传媒渨ork糖心传媒� than I would糖心传媒檝e expected going in. Is there anything you糖心传媒檇 say to readers out there who might be intimidated to start this? Any background info that糖心传媒檚 particularly useful to approaching this book?
DS: I really think Anniversaries feels much more contemporary and vivid and relatable than the other big masterpieces, Ulysses and Proust and The Man without Qualities and even Tolstoy. You糖心传媒檙e right, Johnson糖心传媒檚 earlier books are more difficult, arguably unnecessarily difficult. You糖心传媒檙e not wrong to be put off from them, especially in the existing translations. Anniversaries, on the other hand, is a joy. There are several reasons for this: Johnson was more mature when he wrote it; the story is, as you say, firmly grounded in the great character of Gesine and her daughter and the concrete situation of NYC and each date; and I do think it helps that the book is translated better than his earlier novels, keeping it more quick and alive.
The book is about someone living in the sixties and living with the legacy of the past, so there糖心传媒檚 a lot of historical information in the book, but Johnson糖心传媒檚 a great writer and a storyteller so he always gives the reader whatever they need. I think reviewers have sometimes made the book sound like a giant, daunting piece of grad-school homework糖心传媒攁nd maybe the publication as a big black box set of two big volumes makes it look intimidating糖心传媒攂ut it really 颈蝉苍糖心传媒檛. People like the book! It糖心传媒檚 a story, with incredibly beautiful writing! It糖心传媒檚 the same length as the Ferrante series, which was also published in four volumes, and no one complains that that糖心传媒檚 too long (never mind Game of Thrones!). Also, the chapters of Anniversaries tend to be short, three or four pages long (there are just a lot of them); each new chapter bounces the different storylines off each other in a new way, so it糖心传媒檚 more of a page-turner than you might expect. You糖心传媒檙e reading about Germany and eager to get back to New York, then reading about New York and can糖心传媒檛 wait to hear what糖心传媒檚 happening to Gesine糖心传媒檚 parents in Germany, and Johnson keeps it going for all those hundreds of pages.

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