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Astrophysicist meets Marvel movie as Doctor Strange science consultant

Frank helped address a ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½œparticular difficulty with Doctor StrangeÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½� (played by Benedict Cumberbatch): the source of his powers in MarvelÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½œscience-y universe.ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½� (Pictorial Press Ltd / Alamy Stock Photo)

As you would expect, Adam Frank, a professor of physics and astronomy, has a pretty good handle on the laws of physics in this universe. But what happens when the universe under discussion is fictional? And the beings who populate that universe have super powers?

The makers of the latest Marvel blockbuster, Doctor Strange, wanted the fantasy film to have scientific substance. For help, they turned to Frank, who was a science consultant on the film.

Who is Doctor Strange?
Stephen Strange is a brilliant but arrogant neurosurgeon who loses the use of his hands, at least to conduct surgery, because of a car accident. He looks for some way to heal his hands, and goes through all kinds of surgeries. He ends up in Tibet as a last resort, in front of the Ancient One, a mystical master. She opens him up to the fact that thereÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s more to life, and to the world, than his reductionist way of looking at things. He becomes her disciple and trains to become a sorcerer, an occult mystical master fighting against the forces of evil.

If Strange becomes a sorcerer, why do the filmmakers need a science consultant? ArenÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™t magic and science incompatible?
The interesting thing about the Marvel movies is that theyÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™ve built a consistent and coherent universe with laws of physics.

They are, of course, not our laws of physics. But theyÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™re built off of our laws of physics. So when youÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™ve got this science-y universe and a character whoÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s all about sorcery and magic, how do you bring that characterÌýinto the universeÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½”MarvelÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s cinematic science of the universeÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½”in a way thatÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s coherent, but that doesnÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™t damage the character? How do you account for StrangeÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s powers? Where do they come from? ÌýI was brought in to help answer those questions.

Adam Frank
Adam Frank. (University photo / Brandon Vick)

What solution did you propose?
My take on this was to look at consciousness, rather than to try to explain his powers using neuroscience. In philosophy there is the mind-body problem: what is the relationship between the neurons that are in your brain and the experience of consciousness itself?

ThereÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s a reductionist view that says anything, whatever your feelings, love or joy, theyÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™re really just neurons, and those neurons are just atoms, so everything can be reduced to the lowest level of structure. But we donÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™t really have a science of consciousness.

IÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™m a lapsed reductionist. I went into science because I was a reductionist, and as time has gone on, I think thereÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s more that needs to be accounted for. The philosopher David Chalmers wrote a very influential paper in the 1990s called ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½œOn the Hard Problem of Consciousness.ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½� His perspective was that the vividness of internal experienceÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½”the fact that youÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™re present, that there is a present for you in the worldÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½”canÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™t be explained just by atoms. You may need to explain it by some new thing, something else in the universe to explain it. And I thought that opened up possibilities for the narrative. Now, suddenly, Strange is tapping into this ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½œsomething elseÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½� that is what consciousness is.

Do you regret any of the compromises the movie makes with scienceÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½”or, at least, our universeÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s science?
The one place in the movie where I winced a bit was then they used the word ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½œsoul.ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½� The Ancient One pushes StrangeÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s soul out of his body, and thereÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s a moment of astral projection. I donÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™t really believe in souls. The awesome part for me is I get to tell people about, in ChalmersÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½™s words, ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½œthe hard problem of consciousness.ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½�

My job as a science communicator is to get people to think about how science works. But philosophy is just as important to me in getting people to think about this fundamental question, what is the nature of
consciousness? How does consciousness express itself in the material world? What does that tell us about the material world and the world of consciousness? When I do that, I can go home and be happy.

Portrait of Adam Frank

Astrophysicist Adam Frank

A self-described ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½œevangelist of science,ÌÇÐÄ´«Ã½� Frank regularly writesÌýandÌýspeaksÌýabout subjects like intelligent life forms in the universe, high-energy-density physics, space exploration and missions, climate change, and more.

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